tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937152956353734819.post5223204426461244016..comments2024-03-11T15:40:19.843+00:00Comments on Baptist Bookworm: On the Place of the JewsSimon Woodmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07380154842934378078noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937152956353734819.post-32957753234567976232009-03-05T08:19:00.000+00:002009-03-05T08:19:00.000+00:00I think the difficulty with this approach is that ...I think the difficulty with this approach is that it doesn't take account of the complexity of the New Testament material set against the background of the complexity of the context in which it arose.<BR/><BR/>Many groups josstled in Judea to describe and define who was the 'true' Israel - sadduccees, pharisees, essenes, other groups that are mere shadows on the screen of history now - and, of course, the followers of Jesus.<BR/><BR/>Jesus redefined Israel over against pharisaic definitions. As the followers of Jesus spread out from Jerusalem, they too wrestled with who to share the message with and how those who were not Judeans could be part of the movement.<BR/><BR/>There is a case for suggesting that Judaism as we have it today is the product of the regrouping of Judean people frollowing the Bar Kochba revolt and codification of scribal tradition that happened over the second to fourth centuries after Christ.<BR/><BR/>I believe those who follow Jesus and live as his disicples are God's Israel. How others relate to that is beyond me!simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13470335172330595542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8937152956353734819.post-28949188926375351242009-03-04T12:16:00.000+00:002009-03-04T12:16:00.000+00:00I am just about to go out so i can't muster a theo...I am just about to go out so i can't muster a theological in depth reply, all i have time to say is, i think you might be getting a bit wet over there in the rain Simon. But as i am very interested in Generous orthodoxy, i will still talk to you.Iain Stephensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05106179505664825939noreply@blogger.com